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Oh please don't get me started on Vinca, or Tagetes for that matter.

I have to stop commenting now before my blood pressure rises too much and my eye balls pop out as steam rises from my ears!

What about Bergenia?

Ryan

I must speak in defense of the marigold. Ok, it is loudly orange or yellow and used a lot because it is indistructable. They are not water guzzlers, tough as nails, grow fine without fertilizer. You can save the seeds from year to year. They can be started outside, they are a great companion plant for your vegetables fending off bad bugs. Besides, they were my first gardening attempt. Each fall I would collect some seeds from the marigolds either in our yard (self seeded, parents only bought veggie seeds/plants) or from other folks yards (only the ones that hung over the public sidewalk). I would plant them in a pot and by spring I would usually have one or two flowers. I also water rooted begonias and english ivy, two other much trashed plants. I had a jungle in my bedroom. Which annoyed my prissy sister no end. Probably one of the reasons why I did it.

If you don't like vincas and marigolds, don't grow them. Cultivate your own garden, and tell us about it.

I LOVE my marigolds. They grow scattered in between my tomatoes and beans. They need no attention at all. They keep down the nematode. They bloom cheerily all summer long without me deadheading them. The bees love them. They smell wonderful as I trample them when they take over the paths. They faithfully put out seeds each summer which I collect for next years plants. Marigolds can't be beat as a companion plant.

I'm not sure Hanna is decrying the plants themselves so much as the practices that these plants have come to symbolize for her. That is, it's not vinca itself, but the process of ripping out a bed and putting in new plants every six weeks, then watering and fertilizing the heck out of them before yanking them out and replacing them just as they're finally getting established and reaching maturity.

I can get behind that rant, no matter how much I love my endless sprawl of vinca minor. :-)

Point taken. Annuals are hungry.

But I am interested in your verbage.

Hmmm. Sluts and tarts. Then the reference to 'Death Wish' and I imagine streets with hustlers, pimps, and hookers hanging out in a 'vestibule'.
Using the word "Hummer" in this context, I barely think of the vehicle for driving, so much as the vehicle for sexual gratification. Right after that its poor young things being ripped away which sounds like a way to describe young girls in the sex trade -all in context if you will.

The next paragraph speaks for itself. The 'bed' of sluts.

I am curious about eco-feminism. Do you see annual planting as a tool of male domination in the garden. Is perennial planting a feminist modality?

Please post on that!

Well... My seasons are marked by the marvelous progression of wildflowers, of course, but (believe it or not!) I maintain a bed of Marigolds(!)

Long ago warned never to plant seeds from hybrids, (rebel that I am) I bought a flat of marigolds for front-door color...and then never replaced them.

I just clear off the bed every Spring. The bed explodes in Marigolds, some of which I rearange, and provides color for the rest of the year at no cost or effort. That's worked for 15 years...some grow big, some stay little, some more yellow, some more orange (maybe I'll have the original wildflower "show up"?).

Now Vinca? Along with Ivy, and some other groundcovers, it's clearly an instrument of the devil!

And as always, the wildflowers march on... Fragrant, Silky, New England, Sky Blue, and Short's Asters are all starting to bloom. The first Goldenrods (Elm Leaf, Rigid) are now joining them...and the Red, Blue, and Maroon Lobelias are blazing away for the Hummers.

Bob, do you have a shot of that explosion at your front door you can point us to?

In my own very diverse garden, filled with rarities, you will find marigolds. Colorful and powerful, I offer them up among the veggies. And, consistently they offer color and like any good virgin sacrifice, they are the first line of defense against the invaders. All hail the marigold!

Bedding out is a left over Victorian gardening practice.

Another vote *for* the marigold. It completely pays its own way in my garden by being:
cheap (collect seeds)
cheerful (blooms right to frost)
friendly with the neighbours (I love a good companion plant)

I do get what you're saying - using some of these bland plants all over town, then ripping them up 8 weeks later for the next wave is pretty gross, but let's blame the tarts, let's blame the practice.

I am amazed the ubiquitous petunia didn't join the sluts list.

I think some of the commenters are missing the point. The target of this rant isn't the marigold or vinca itself -- it's the practice of apartment buildings and mini-malls of treating annuals as if they're only good for 3 months.

If you grow marigolds in your garden, you probably don't pump them full of chemicals and then rip them out as soon as they start to fade, only to replace them with another soon-to-be-faded beauty. I think many (most?) of us grow our annuals in pots until they can't take it anymore or we let them go to seed and flourish (thus the wildness that is my calendula bed).

I like vinca as a ground cover, but here people just leave it in year-round. It's prettier than ivy, although I'm sure the rats like it just as much.

Great rant, Hanna!

At least you're in Austin. Around here, the Marigolds & Vinca get ripped out to be replaced with Mums! Already, the garden centers are full of them.
As for the term "slut," the Illinois Supreme Court has defined it as "bold, brazen" or a "bully." Marigolds certainly are bold & brazen, so I think you're safe from any defamation claims by the Marigolds.

It's not just the seasonal change outs and the unimaginative flower choices - it's the horrendous color combinations! Weird shades of pink and salmon petal to petal with purple, white and yellow.

When I was in design school, my planting design instructor referred to this type of mallfront planting as festival colors, and said the bright, jarring combinations get people slightly agitated, which encourages them to buy more.

Don't know if this is true, but I clutch my purse a little more tightly now when passing by.

If you read my blog you will understand that not only do I have a dislike for vinca and tagetes (love calendula by the way) but my philosophies embrace sustainabily, longevity and individuality.

Bedding is waste in my eyes and also incredibly boring in the settings mentioned by the Garden Rant team!

Ryan (http:/ryans-garden.blogspot.com/)

I love marigolds.

Marigolds are one of the few flowers I put in my mostly permaculture landscape. They work well as companion plants, particularly as a nematode deterrent. They are fairly attractive and bring in a few butterflies.

Generally speaking, I am not a big fan of annuals. But I make room for some marigolds.

Clitoria sounds a bit risque to me (perhaps not sluttish, can't infer too much).

I really appreciate seeing a commercial landscape that is well done and uses appropriate plants that are not simply ripped out and replaced every few months. So tired of the absolute garbage that passes for landscaping, that uses too much water and is not at all appropriate to the area.

Give me some perennials with great foliage any day over splashy plants replaced every couple months...

I do not speak for the commercial landscape industry, but they have their reasons for doing what they do. What seems wasteful to us may have solid science behind it. Around here they only do one or two "change outs" and it seems to have more to do with the readiness of the 'next' rather than the 'previous' crop. From my office window I can tell ya that they rarely water, never feed nor prune these "sluts". So they are not the addicts that people make them out to be. Its all about maximum color with the least amount of effort = Easy (so I guess slut is an appropriate term).

It is wonderful when it is done well - and since that is so rare, I never get tired of noticing commercial plantings.

I agree with John - these commercial landscapers are goibng for cheap, quick and easy - yes sluts - and maybe they are used up and thrown aside before they reach their prime, but the landscapers have limited useable daylight hours to transform vast expanses of street-side beds -- I always compliment the hard-working crews as I pass by and if they are in midst of ripping out marigolds which I know full well will last anothe r 2 months here at least, I'll ask for some of the discarded plants and happily tote them home.

Yay marigolds! Glad to see a few fans come out of the woodwork on that point. (Though the above description of marigolds as "cheap," "cheerful," and "friendly with the neighbours" makes them sound slutty indeed.)

When I think of the sluts of the flower garden, I often picture Martagon lilies. Dramatic beauties that they are, they certainly put it out there when it comes to reproductive parts - but that's an entirely different definition of the term than the one Hanna puts forth.

Here's just a few shots... Several of wildflowers, one of the Marigolds (just after a 4 inch rainfall!).

It does show some of the various types popping up:)

http://www.flickr.com/photos/33440872@N06/?saved=1

I would add sweet potato vine and purple/pink wave petunias to the list

28pots.tumblr.com

LOL... you never fail to amuse me. One of the most interesting things I was asked when I worked for a local greenhouse was, "Can I pinch this back?" ... as an old lady held up a friggen Dusty Miller to me. "Well I've never heard of pinching back a DM." Old lady: "Well could you check?!" Thinking I might have missed something in class, I embarrassingly went to ask another employee who thought I was trying to pull one on them, lol. And you forgot "spikes" on your list ;-) They're absolutely essential for container gardening!

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