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Go for it -- no looking back! Sounds like she could clear a trellis if the urge to jump struck her. :-)

Exotic potatoes! Yummmm. Just a word of caution - recall in my Master Gardener training many moons ago that potatoes are likely to scab in neutral-alkaline soil, which is exactly what lawns like. Also wireworms, another potato pest, prefer newly-cultivated soil. I would consider growing potatoes in the great soil you have on the left and rotate last years' crops to the new area. Good on you, urban farmer!!

A few pavers in the hellstrip may help your visitors.

My front yard is mostly lawn, to blend in with the neighborhood, but the backyard has lost a lot of turf over the years. Lawn is easier to care for, but then what would I do?

I'm a lawnophobe as well and wherever I move I end up taking out as much grass as is socially tolerable in the neighborhood. Since I don't have kids there's no concern with giving them a place to play. I just need to have enough lawn (behind a fence) for my three special needs dogs for conduct their business. If it wasn't for the dogs or the scowls from the neighborhood I probably wouldn't have any lawn at all.

My dog insists on conducting his business in the garden. He won't go on my grass. I have a little bit of lawn left in the front yard, so the girls have somewhere to make a snowman. They don't play on the grass, they play on my stepping stones through the gardens. As for grass being easier to care for? My gardens only require a little pruning in the spring to take out damaged branches, and cutting off any dead blooms from the previous year, if I feel like it. If you don't plant the big ornamental grasses, there really is minimal clean up to be done. And far less weeding with all the mulch than the grass.

Wow I covet a 7500 s/f lot! My Berkeley lot is only 3600. Needless to say he first thing I did when I bought the house was nuke the stupid tiny patch of lawn, quickly followed by all the mildew infested roses... being in the old mixed-use industrial neighborhood means our soil was too contaminated for veggies in the ground, so my food crops are in troughs (though a few years of planting sunflowers and the ground tests safe now). But what little space there is already full with my eclectic plant collection, so to increase my vegetable garden space I just add a few more pots and use spinach and arugula as a ground cover, which the tortoises are happy to keep mowed down.

Oh MY! You're selling your country garden!

I don't think you will miss the lawn, but then with me it's all about food and flowers. I even preferred the gardens with paths and flower beds and no lawn when I was a kid. Lawns are boring.

Pumpkins will grow wonderfully up and across fences. I use that vertical height to keep the rest of my limited garden space clear for other things.

Ditto to that suggestion about pavers through the hellstrip. I just made some - for about 30 cents apiece.

Gosh, I hate to say it I planned on a little grass at our place. Preferably a mix of prairie grasses that tolerate some mowing but don't suck water down. I like the transitional element between beds, the places to stroll with cushy grass between my bare toes, and for maybe-future-grandkids to play ball. The ability to drive the tractor (yeah, we're talking a bit more than 7500 sqft.) Somewhere to lay on the turf on a blanket and look at stars or clouds. Grass is not evil, it's better than pavement; as in all things gardening, the right plant in the right place...

Bummer about the country place. Maybe you should dig up the soil in your vegetable garden there and truck it in to the city garden for the new vegetable garden annex.

I haven't had lawn for 8 years. In the city that's what parks are for and if I need lawn I go there.

Being the pro lawn troll that I am you have to do what is right for you. And if that means no lawn then OK.

The problem with the anti-lawn nazis is this. They hate all lawns, no matter how small a percentage it takes of a residential landscape.

I know this all too well. I took my 2/3 acre lawn down to 6,000 square feet with only 10% of that getting any regular feeding and weeding. Still it was enough for the stolon stealers.

Keep off the grass means that keep off my grass.

the TROLL

I need a lawn. The clippings are an important source of nitrogen for my compost which, in turn, is an important source of organic matter for my gardens.

I suspect you'll miss more about your country place than just the grass. But I also bet that, having had your place there, you know all sorts of places to stay when you need to get away for your "country fix" (and with no "country maintenance" involved!).

And I agree: cool "Welcome" pavers in the hell strip! Or, plant a nice ground cover that tolerates being trod upon (chamomile, for instance) and plant a strategically-placed foot-wide swath of that for people to walk through.

In many counties they have the Cash for Grass going on ...you call the county and they come out and measure your turf area. Then you remove the grass and they come back and remeasure and write you a check for $$$$ per sq. foot removed. I made enough to put in a petanque court, pay my helper, buy the crushed opalite. If I'd realized I was going to take out more than originally measured for, they would have helped me with the drip system too (on all the little shrubs I filled in with)! You might check with your city first and they could give you the necessary county contact.

Is there any information around about a gender bias in lawn preferences? I find my male clients resist lawn eradication most but it's such a small sample I'm not sure it means anything.

Grass for the lawn is a must part but making a garden look beautiful without Grass would be a highly appreciable job, Green grass for any lawn makes it look amazing for this purpose many organizations having landscaping ideas like P & M Gonzalez Landscaping and so many others which provide the best landscaping for one's lawn or garden, We should appreciate their efforts in this concern.

When I was little I almost never played on the grass- I hive out just sitting on a lawn let alone rolling in it. I played in the yard all the time (thanks Dad for planting climbable trees!) So I don't want a lawn now because I hate mowing it; I'm guessing any child of mine has a good shot of inheriting my sensitivity, so I probably don't want a lawn in the future either.

But I did want to mention that in my Northern California neighborhood there's a front landscape in the manner of a zen garden, with rocks and sculptural shrubs and everything, with the lawn taking the place of the raked sand. It is a beautiful yard, so I have to remind myself there are wonderful uses for stretches of turf, even if I find the traditional giant green rectangle unappealing.

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